at home artists unschooling

topic posted Wed, February 6, 2008 - 12:09 PM by  H.P. Meow Me...
on the one hand, i most definitely do not want to send my kid (baby on the way) into a school system that is going to have him or her learning the same stupid stuff year after year, wasting his or her best, most energetic years being beaten into mental submission.

on the other hand, i want several hours a day to myself to write fiction. preferably very quiet hours.

i will say bluntly that i am worried about certain aspects of parenting. i know lots of people find every little mispronounced word and confusion of their child's utterly adorable and endearing. i have friends who have endless patience for tantrums and negotiations about socks. color me unmaternal. so far anyway. my parents always spoke to me like i was fully enfranchised human being, so perhaps that's why i expect my kid will land rather whole as well.

but they will still be a kid.

and i still don't want them in the school system.

and i still want to get to be an artist.

how are other folks balancing time to do their own exploratory work with unschooling?
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H.P. Meow Meow Meow
New York City
  • Re: at home artists unschooling

    Thu, February 7, 2008 - 7:19 AM
    I suspect I am a lot older than you (I am 43) so this was probably an easier choice for me to make but I decided to put my writing on hold for the first couple of years of my son's life. I used to think I couldn't survive without being a writer, writing regularly, but what I have discovered is that this adventure is so completely precious to me that I am willing to make that trade. I still get up a couple hours before my son every morning, read my unschooling lists and try to blog. That's where I try to keep my writing voice in shape. I steal moments here and there to work on my fairies--sometimes trading sleep for the joy of sewing something sparkly and beautiful. For me, this is a perfect trade and I find that my parenting is a creative endeavor, a work of art in its own right, and that my writing and my sewing are all informed, inspired by this. There are times when I feel frustrated by being pulled away from these things when the baby wakes early or whatever, but I feel like making the choice to be completely present as his mother has changed who I am, how I relate to the world, and how I can express that relationship in my own creativity. When he is a little older and I'm able to write more I feel like the words will come flooding out of me, I feel like what is building in my artistic well is a wonderful thing in its own right.

    I know this wouldn't work for everyone, but it does for me. If the whole idea sounds like too much for you, school is not the only answer, you just get creative in your ideas and find someone who shares your unschooling ideas and can spend a few hours a day with your child, or you just get up super early every morning or stay up late at night. I found I wasn't able to do any focused writing in only an hour or two a day, blogging was free form enough for me to meet that need on a sporadic basis (but we've all bee sick around here lately and I haven't been at the computer for a while). Work this out with your partner if you have one. Mine is disabled and unable to help much with taking care of our boy and there is no one out here in the middle of nowhere where we live who could help me so I learned, much to my surprise, that I could get all my needs met even when I spend 24/7/365 with my boy. It all works out.

    If you're anything like me, you'll be amazed at what you are capable of, and how the ideas you have about who you'll be as a mother will change. You'll find what you need and it will all be worth it!
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      Thu, February 7, 2008 - 9:02 AM
      hey, fairy. we're not too far off in age -- i'm 38. i know it's not going to be anything like i expect and my that time management will change. i actually anticipate wanting to spend all my time with my baby. but from my perspective at this point, that desire is kind of like the time i wanted to leave my camelback behind on the playa because i was on ecstasy. i mean, i know i'm going to be in a blissed mommy state or an exhausted mommy state. i'm going to find myself psychicly altered and that that kid's going to seem like the larger part of the universe to me. and i'm trying to figure out how to maintian care for this other thing i've been nurturing for the past five years. i'm writing like a fiend now, trying to get a book finished before the baby gets here. i think i might want to be one of those good, solid, loving but not so stereotypically maternal moms who has stuff she loves to do and spends some of the day doing it.... but HOW???
      • Re: at home artists unschooling

        Thu, February 7, 2008 - 9:51 AM
        Congratulations!!!

        i went thru a panic too while pregnant as i like my alone quiet meditative time and foresaw none in my future as a solo mother to a child. its not easy! i am still trying to find a balance. love just keeps you going... hoping you have a partner... a little support goes a long way even if they don't do much. if not... well you'll survive!! blissbless to your belly!!
        • Re: at home artists unschooling

          Fri, February 8, 2008 - 1:58 PM
          Maybe you can't know how until the time comes. You just have to trust it will happen, or that if it doesn't you will survive and just be a somewhat different you than you thought you would be. But if the writing calls you that strongly, you'll find a way to answer. I think for me there was also the factor that I'd been writing for 20 years, had never seemed to have the talent or the drive to make a huge success of it, but had done enough of it to fulfill something important in me. I felt really Ok about putting it aside, notwhithstanding the occasional jones for it that comes and goes.

          I loved, still love writing. It has defined me my whole life, was always the only thing I was ever good at. But it was kind of awful to hit 40 and realize I really wasn't THAT good at it--passable, acceptable, marginally employable, but not great. Much to my surprise, I feel like I am kind of great at being a mom. That is, I'm not a great mom--I suck at it a lot of the time, but I love it like I've never loved anything in my life and I never feel the kind of defeat I often felt when getting rejected with my writing. That is, it's crushing, for example, to lose my temper with my precious kid. But we are live, growing, evolving creatures and we can recover, learn, grow from every moment that passes between us.

          Writing is a solitary occupation, one the requires a certain amount of self involvement. I was definitely good at being self involved. I think most people don't have that hurdle to overcome in motherhood and so maybe don't find that same kind of astonishing revelation in it. For me it was like coming alive for the first time ever to be really connected to another human being. If you are not otherwise a particularly self involved person, this probably won't make sense to you, but being forced out of that way of being by having a kid changed my need to write, to be alone, to remake the world in my own imaginings. I think that's because maybe I was never called to write in the same deep, deep way as others often are. I used to believe I was, but now I'm not su sure. My sister has two children and is a writer. She is amazingly talented and just won last year's Writer's Digest grand prize out of 16 thousand other writers. She's that good. So she writes. Her husband, her parents, her inlaws, her daycare center play a big role in her ability to do that but she was called to it and has to do it. Reading her stuff, I couldn't make any other choice if I were her.

          We all find our way eventually, hope you'll stick around and say how it goes!
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            Sat, February 9, 2008 - 1:59 PM
            it is so true fairy... about being self involved... especially if you are an older mother i think it can come as a great shock as you have had so much freedom your adult life. i see some of my single friends and could not imagine them with child in a million years because of this but i was like that too. it is a true expansion to have a child, especially for us introverted artists... life always calls for more balance and growth. enjoy the ride... it will surely push you to your limits, literally!!
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              Sat, February 9, 2008 - 4:58 PM
              I don't know. When I talked to my mom about having a baby, I said I was having a bit of trouble adjusting to the thought that I couldn't just set off hitchhiking for several months at a clip or decide i had enough money saved to spend a prolonged period of time alone in my apt writing or go spend a year living among chassidim -- or any of the other adventures singleness and childlessness allowed me. she said, "Well, sure if you want to live that kind of self-absorbed life." but the thing is, in the years of having adventures, it's often seemed to me parents are some of the most self-absorbed people on earth. I kind of hear this drone of "my child, my bugaboo, my carrier, my kids' fingerpainting, my kid's poop, etc." It's just a different self-absorption. but it forgets the importance of other children, of the world in general. i'm not saying one focus is better than another. and i welcome the opportunity to have this baby focus. but i don't see how my growing obsessions with breast feeding, diapers, unschooling, etc are any more or less self absorbed than anything else that's occupied my mental space before. a writer can live out of love and a broad sense of caring. a parent can be very small in his or her way of thinking. gosh, i grew up in a private school culture where parents would have mowed other folks' kids down just to gain an advantage for their own precious child. i hardly see how *that* is not self absorbed.

              anyway, i hear what you both are saying, but just want to hold space for the notion that being an artist is not inherently as self absorbed as some folks think and being a parent can be quite small sometimes....
              • Re: at home artists unschooling

                Fri, February 29, 2008 - 7:01 AM
                Hey, wanted to respond to this a long time ago but got knocked down by a miserable flu. It made me laugh, actually, to read this because yeah, parenting IS just another way to be self absorbed!! That is, for me the self absorbtion comes around how much I think about what a rotten mother I am, how much thought I put into dealing with my past stuff so that I don't end up putting it off on my kid, that kind of thing. I think if you try to make your kid an extention of yourself that is another form of self absorption. I am working really hard at learning to let go of trying to own my son and instead to honor who he is and get out of his way so he can have room to be that person. This takes a lot of self evaluation on my part, which comes perilously close to just being more self obsession... Ahh, the vicious circles of the mind!

                I really want to be a good parent, and that's about me and my ego. But more than that, I want to have a real relationship with my son. I want to have a partnership with this person that is mutually respectful and honoring. This takes serious work, dedication, committment, and a willingness to see myself as I am and to work for change in myself. For me this takes precedence over everything else because I want it so very much and because I think maybe I am just a lot more screwed up than other people so maybe it takes me more work than it does others, I don't know.

                To my way of thinking, being an artist is inherently self involved, it's the only way to make great art, but I don't think that is a bad thing. Giving yourself to your art (or to your parenting, even) is an act of giving something to the world at large. Something created with great passion and dedication benefits the whole world, to my way of thinking, because it models a willingness to follow the truth inside you rather than to be led by a false external construct. And if you are compelled by your art there will be a way to make that work with being a parent. I think that's especially true if there is a second dedicated parent. Me, I found that being a mama was the thing I wanted to do most and I fit the art in around the edges. But as I said, I am a poor example because I was not a particularly talented artist and I am a very mixed up human being who needs a lot of work to get into some kind of smooth running order.

                Just some thoughts.