From public school to unschool?

topic posted Fri, April 20, 2007 - 2:01 PM by  offlineDoniya
After a loooong (and not quite over) year in first grade, I am rethinking school vs. home. I'm a huge fan of unschooling, my almost 7 year old boy is also feeling ready to escape the clutches of the daily grind and social circus of public school. I have only one hang up: he's really enjoying the structure of a daily routine within the classroom, and I am not naturally a structured person, at all. It's very difficult for me to create a routine let alone stick to it! This is why unschool appeals to me! How do you satisfy a kid who needs routine and structure and also maintain a steady creative flow? Is this possible???

***Doniya***
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Doniya
Washington
  • Re: From public school to unschool?

    Wed, January 30, 2008 - 9:35 AM
    me too. My son is 7 he's in second grade at a great public school, been there two weeks after 2 years unschooling. it is a public school none the less. Routine is good for him. Time away is good. bus and free childcare is so nice after so much time togeather. Our biggest obstacle is that i have no driver's liscence wich has really put a damper on beeing able to be invovlved in sooo many great things. He and I are both very buch extroverts and it's often been lonely and confusing at home alone so often. I sent him there for a few weeks till i get liscence. I'll take test tomorrow and so need to decide what to do next. He went to homeschool parteners.. a washington program were kids can take classes 1 to 3 days a week. I like it we attented Skaggit Valley learning center. You can take taekwan doe, quilting, music and drama + more. There are many kinds of homeschoolers there and lots of people for us to meet. The new semester begins next week. There are no buses to bring him there though and i have to be on propety until I meet up with parents who are willing to take turns for guardianship for the day. THis is also considered public school and in grade 3 they do wasl but they have had unschoolers and are fully supportive.
    I realised last year I do like routione too. Some not five days all day to weekend.
    You could pick one or two things to do regularily for son every week same time.
    Alos this year he started playing Lacross. Its soo good for him to have something consistent to look forward to.
    So friends are good for him at public school but I don't like somethings they say to each other or the weird unintimate I'm cool we're friends but don't have areal relationship. I've also been committed to child lead reading.. which school is not...he is learning to read and write better wich is what he does alot of the day but doesn't mind too much.
    I'm not sure how I feel about all this I do know how every other person a round me feels, Dad, stepdad my mother father grandmother all my inlaws all think it's so great he's finally in real school and why would i dream of taking him out?uhggg
  • Re: From public school to unschool?

    Wed, January 30, 2008 - 11:42 AM
    Can you let him help you figure out what that would look like? What does he like about the school day? Can you recreate that at home? Can you sit down together and design what a daily schedule might look like for both of you, one that satisfies both of your needs? Can you have some scheduled activities once a week, or even daily, and then times when things are more loose? If you need time that isn't structured and he needs time that is, what if you helped him find a structure for him that you don't necessarily have to follow? He can make a schedule for the day of things he wants to do and stick to it by consulting the clock and that sort of thing. Or enroll him in some homeschooling activities that don't require him to slog through the day in public school. Your day doesn't have to look like school at home to have structure in it, just look outside the box for unconventional ways to achieve structure. Have lunch at the same time every day and sit together like a cafeteria or something like that.

    If he likes structure and you don't, it might also be a matter of you finding ways to thrive within a more structured environment until he is better able to create his own structure. Let your creativity flow into finding ways to meet the needs of everyone in your family without compromising your goals for each other, like autonomy, respect and freedom (which I think are all compromised for kids in the public and even most private school systems). From the outside perhaps it looks like bringing structure into your own life to meet your child's needs looks like a sacrifice that would dampen creativty, but I don't think it has to be that way if it's something you do joyfully and creatively, if that makes sense.
    • Re: From public school to unschool?

      Wed, January 30, 2008 - 11:52 AM
      Danielle, is the routine of public school really good for him? Is that much time away from you really good for him? I am not asking to be snarky, but because I wonder if that's just something the conventional wisdom tells us is good for kids but maybe it really isn't.

      I used to be vehemently in favor of sending my son to school because I remembered as a kid how important it was to have the relationships I made there, even though we moved constantly. In school, I found others like me and felt not so alone in the world. Eventually I came to realize that I felt alone in the world because my family was a mess and there was no one I could count on in my home. If a child has a family he feels secure in, I don't think he needs school the way I did. He needs interaction with other children but as you've pointed out there are plenty of ways to make that happen without isolating him all day every day with only others of his own age group.

      I guess what I mean is that we have this idea that kids need time away from us but I've come to the conclusion that isn't as true as I used to think it was. My son needs independence and autonomy, more and more as he grows, and he is a social creature and will need other relationships, friends of all kinds. I hope our life will be such that when he takes time away from his family it is because he is attracted to something else more, not just that we need to be apart (and I hope the same will be true for me--I used to think I would not be able to be with my kid 24/7 but have been amazed and thrilled to discover that I love it). I realize I may be overly optimistic about this as my son is still only 18 months old, but I've heard from a lot of unschooling mamas that this is entirely possible and so it is my dream. I know your son is much older and sounds like you've been doing the 24/7 thing for a long time so maybe I didn't get what you were saying but just posting the thoughts that occurred to me.
    • Re: From public school to unschool?

      Wed, January 30, 2008 - 11:57 AM
      Think my last post didn't take so I'll try again. Danielle, you say you're not sure how you feel about your son being in school. How does he feel? Do you think he really likes it? Is he thriving? Does he really need that much time away from you? It seems like what he thinks matters far more than what anyone else outside your immediate family thinks but I know it is hard to swim against the stream and unschooling your kids is very isolating in its way. However, there are tons of amazing discussion lists and web sites where you can interact with some parents who are doing the impossible all the time and loving every minute of it, stretching themselves far beyond what they thought they were capable of and managing to overcome criticism and opposition just by living their lives and showing by example the wonderful results of their choices.
      • Re: From public school to unschool?

        Wed, January 30, 2008 - 1:50 PM
        I can understand needing the structure thing. I am realizing that my son really needs it and i need help providing it for him. Not a rigid structure but a moment to moment communication that i am burnt out on. i have no intention of sending my son to public school in this country... but if your son likes it for now... just enjoy the time... rejuvenate and take him out when you are ready...
        • Re: From public school to unschool?

          Wed, February 6, 2008 - 9:18 PM
          We're back to home. Thankfully . I'm looking forward to our next few months...years actually. Very happy to be learning together nad looking to strenghten bonds with freinds and meet new ones to shar time togeather and share care and responsabilities of raising each other... childcare... .So glad for me the lack of freedom for my child at public school just isn't worth the benefits.... + fulltime is too much racing....